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May 12, 2023

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In this edition of Indie Talk, Chris and Nick invite Filmmakers Kyler Wilson and Natalie Ruffino Wilson to the conversation. They talk about: 


  • Shooting and funding their film Best Laid Plans
  • The fairness of IMDb scoring  
  • Their decision to hire a sales agent instead of going straight to a distributor
  • The new era of the self-tape actor
  • How they met each other and the challenge of working together 


…and much more!


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Best Laid Plans (film)

Camp Radio (web series)

Kyler’s FaceBook

Natalie’s Facebook




Someone Like You (film)

Tiffany Boyle at Ramo Law PC

Glen Reynolds Circus Road Films

Triangle of Sadness (film)

Princess Bride (film)

Coming to America (film)

Twister (film)

Meet Joe Black (film)


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The MAKE IT podcast amplifies the voice of the filmmaker by exploring the filmmaking journeys of actors, writers, directors, producers, and a host of other creatives from across the film industry. We provide a platform for filmmakers to provide advice, lessons learned, personal reflections, and insights through our Filmmaker Conversations, Mistakes in the Making, Industry Insights, Indie Talks, and Film Investment Series. We are the go-to film podcast for independent creatives!